Curse

Art Of Perfection · Jun 19, 2007, 04:37 AM // 04:37

First day of hard mode I got 3 golds a mission WITH HENCH and tomes and all. Recently even soloing I've gotten NO golds or tomes and have heard popular farming spots like outside nebu or whatever it's called were nerfed.

I see anet sticks with its promises of good drops and riches

The Great Al · Jun 19, 2007, 04:48 AM // 04:48

There's no way Gaile is lying to us. She's either:

1. telling the truth, and there really is no anti-farming code
2. Anet just told her to tell us that there's no code even if there is, in which case you could make a case for her lying, but she wouldnt be allowed to tell us something that Anet didn't want us to know.

**cosyfiep** · Jun 19, 2007, 05:18 AM // 05:18

elite tomes, they exist??? Have yet to get one, and recently havent gotten any reg ones either.....though I have been getting better stuff on my NM quests etc....
I notice if I stop playing one of my toons for say a week or two they get better stuff, so I would say that anti-farming is still here, maybe renamed, but alas still here.

Kotetsu Rain · Jun 19, 2007, 05:39 AM // 05:39

I just think that HM drops are okay but that the drop rate for Elite tomes are really low.

For a joke I decided that instead of warming dyes last weekend I decided to see if I could farm Elite Necro Tomes from Sessk, Woe Spreader using the A/E Solo Green Farmer build. The whole weekend I tried AND:

Got 1 Passage to the UW Scroll
Got 1 Passage to FoW Scroll
4 gold items
7 Woe Spreaders
Warrior Tome (normal)
NO Elite Tomes

You make a conclusion

NekoZ · Jun 19, 2007, 05:52 AM // 05:52

I disagree.

Hyper.nl · Jun 19, 2007, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Hard Mode stuff does drop. I've wurm farmed for LB/SS points last weekend (Usually in a party of 6) and I saw many golds. I got a gold one in the 2 or 3 runs. Nothing spectacular, but it does drop.

glountz · Jun 19, 2007, 08:38 AM // 08:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakumei

I've been vanquishing Cantha and I've gotten plenty of good stuff so sorry.

I've been vainquishing Tyria and Guardianing Cantha.
Drops are much lower than the beginning at the introduction of HM.
Most of the golds I have are from chests. Yes chests will grant you great drops. However, it is at the expense of 1k200 to 1k500. And it can drop some purple from these chests.
Just vainquish an area without taking any lockpick, you'll be disappointed.
The ratio risk/reward is so low that only solo farming is interesting.

Sophitia Leafblade · Jun 19, 2007, 09:00 AM // 09:00

Ive been doing Tryia HM missions with a couple of guildies and we normally get 1-5 gold drops between us, i notice also that upon completion of objectives in HM most chests spawn. Such as when we completed the bonus mission in Dunes and chest spawned right next to me which was handy

, theres been numerious purple drops too. As a person whos always had terrible luck with drops i have to say the HM drops are alot better than the drop rate ive had pre-HM.

ForgeWhelp · Jun 19, 2007, 11:44 AM // 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilsod

40 minutes of solo farming for 1 gold... er... yeah thats really not quite as good as you made it out to be.

The drops are weird... a friend from DVDF gets so many elite tomes... either from enemies or chests. I generally get crap... i went through a day or 2 of been the only 1 to get Warden armours... but that seems to have stopped too now.

Well I simply stated my facts having done maybe 50 titan farming runs. I did not go OMG yus needz to farmzorz ttnz to git 1337 lootz...Comming from having farmed trolls and minos and getting a gold about 1 a week, I don't mind. I prefer this farm as I still make about the same as I did with minos and trolls but now I get lots of golds to identify and it's not so nearly monotonous, having to repeat the same 4.7 minutes over and over again.

As well I find that it's very un-random. For instance, I'll get 2 dyes in a single run and none for 6 runs. Over all it's kinda random but the frequency almost seems charted.

reetkever · Jun 19, 2007, 12:18 PM // 12:18

For me, drops in HM are about as good as drops in NM before.

I get about 2 goldies a week, and nothing else that is special. Before Hard Mode came out, I got about the same when doing quests, missions.

In the beginning of HM, I sometimes got 2 golds a day, or even per mission/quest. Now, it seems it's away again. I think they secretly still decreased everything to 1/8th, like they wanted to do in the first place.

ForgeWhelp · Jun 19, 2007, 12:23 PM // 12:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by reetkever

For me, drops in HM are about as good as drops in NM before.

I get about 2 goldies a week, and nothing else that is special. Before Hard Mode came out, I got about the same when doing quests, missions.

In the beginning of HM, I sometimes got 2 golds a day, or even per mission/quest. Now, it seems it's away again. I think they secretly still decreased everything to 1/8th, like they wanted to do in the first place.

Personally I suspect that either the first few days they had things 'turned up' for lots of drops and then turned down to the desired level once they got people hooked. Or they accidentially had drops turned up too high and then turned it down after they realized it. Because in the beginnning I was getting mad drops in an area and then eventually nothing good. After like 20 runs I gave up on that area.

Gli · Jun 19, 2007, 12:24 PM // 12:24

I have a guildie that pops elite tome after elite tome from HM chests while we're vanquishing, often multiple per area. I've seen 3 in 40 areas vanquished. No one in my guild has ever seen a passage scroll. Tough luck I guess.

freekedoutfish · Jun 19, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32

I have to admit that compared to when HM was first added, to now! The drop rate for tomes, golds and dyes in hard mode seems to have fallen.

Maybe its just bad luck. But when I was doing Tyria in HM, I was getting golds nearly all the time, along with quite a few golds.

But while doing Cantha in HM, the drop rate was evidently lower!

lyra_song · Jun 19, 2007, 01:38 PM // 13:38

weird....last night i got:

7 golds
15 purples
2 tomes
.-.

thats from 5 HM farm runs.

I imagine if i went with people, id have seen more gold drops.

A. Noid · Jun 19, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Aside from a lock pick that dropped in HM and subsequently opened (then broke the pick) a chest that offered a nice gold- I have seen no other golds.

I'm not a hard core player so my 'experience' is indeed limited- but the only thing HM has offered me is challenge. I am (financially) rewarded more in NM soloing than in HM (solo or teamed).

-ANoid

Bruce Leeroy · Jun 19, 2007, 04:22 PM // 16:22

I vanquished 10 zones on the weekend w/H&H and the only golds were from chests. I spent more on lockpicks than received from the loot vanquishing. No repeated zones.

When HM was introduced, I did solo a lot of areas and was impressed with the loot.
Now, I dont think its worth it to vanquish a chapter.

Melody Cross · Jun 19, 2007, 04:54 PM // 16:54

I've run H/H and teams with a full party of Rl players. TBH, it seems like the drops are a lot worse than they used to be before HM. I'm talking about when it was just one difficulty and teams would see 2-3 golds in a mission or running a long quest. In HM, now, we're lucky to see two. most is purples and blues and whites or craft materials. Lockpicks break opening chests for a white skill tome or purple rune...

maybe its just me, but I get better money chest running in NM =/ Is quicker and I see more golds.

Jedi Battousai · Jun 19, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi Garett

I used to believe that there was anti-farm in HM despite Gailes statements claiming there was not code in HM.

Lately I'm starting to believe it's just all random. There were some threads about this topic and some people compiled some nice data that showed it was random luck and no code existed. I believe this data was linked from gwonline.net.

Farming is and has always been about persistience. Don't give up just keep killing stuff and the drops will come.

In my experience this has also held true. 1 run I may only get 5 total whites, a grape, and about 1k in gold. The nextg run I may get 3 golds, 8 whites, and 500g in drops and then it may go back to the original drop count. It's all random but it averages out to a nice little sum with enouh time spent.

frodo7 · Jun 19, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Ok Im getting really sick of this crap. Gaile says that the devs read this forum, so Im calling them out. I dare any dev to get himself a set of manhood and come on this form and tell us if there is or isnt some kind of anti-farm code. And I dont mean a quick note re-hashing what is on the update notes. Also please don't just talk about re-zoning over and over. I want you to say if loot has been nerfed or designed to slow down over time.

P A L P H R A M O N D · Jun 19, 2007, 05:39 PM // 17:39

Last two days I have gotten 3 gold Armors (sup Death best), a gold Jade Sword (req 13), 3 Lockpicks . . . and an Orange Dye! While (trying) vanquishing some Luxon areas and farming faction. All Heroes/Hench too.